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	<title>Comments on: Moroccan Spiced Tenderloin with Honeyed Shiraz</title>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine - thank you for your comment.  I agree that if somebody would prefer an alternative to veal, there are several great options.  You saw the suggested modification of using pork tenderloin in the comment section, but I think you might have missed other mods were actually listed in the original recipe (beef, lamb).  If you read through you&#039;ll find them right underneath the ingredient list.

If you were discussing the mass-market veal processing industry, you&#039;re correct - there have been (and continue to be) practices that many of us would consider to be cruel.  However, that&#039;s a token standard for the mass-market meat processing industry as a whole.  If you read up on chickens, they don&#039;t exactly lead a life of glamor.  Have you stopped buying chicken though?  Or have you moved to buying free range chicken or animals from farms with humane life cycle and slaughtering practices?  Where I live we have very limited access to these products, but I understand that in the USA they are readily available from a number of reputable chain stores.  Along with most other food bloggers, I encourage people to seek out these options if they are accessible.  

Christine, you need to understand that the articles posted on this site are like a snap shot into our home and what we&#039;re eating/drinking at any given time.  If you prefer not to use an ingredient we&#039;ll always provide you with alternatives.  However, I will not make that decision for you, nor for any of our readers.  I would encourage you, if you are a fellow foodie and blogger, to continue sharing information that you consider to be educational.  However I caution you not to be dismissive or imply that your audience is not educated enough to make these decisions on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine &#8211; thank you for your comment.  I agree that if somebody would prefer an alternative to veal, there are several great options.  You saw the suggested modification of using pork tenderloin in the comment section, but I think you might have missed other mods were actually listed in the original recipe (beef, lamb).  If you read through you&#8217;ll find them right underneath the ingredient list.</p>
<p>If you were discussing the mass-market veal processing industry, you&#8217;re correct &#8211; there have been (and continue to be) practices that many of us would consider to be cruel.  However, that&#8217;s a token standard for the mass-market meat processing industry as a whole.  If you read up on chickens, they don&#8217;t exactly lead a life of glamor.  Have you stopped buying chicken though?  Or have you moved to buying free range chicken or animals from farms with humane life cycle and slaughtering practices?  Where I live we have very limited access to these products, but I understand that in the USA they are readily available from a number of reputable chain stores.  Along with most other food bloggers, I encourage people to seek out these options if they are accessible.  </p>
<p>Christine, you need to understand that the articles posted on this site are like a snap shot into our home and what we&#8217;re eating/drinking at any given time.  If you prefer not to use an ingredient we&#8217;ll always provide you with alternatives.  However, I will not make that decision for you, nor for any of our readers.  I would encourage you, if you are a fellow foodie and blogger, to continue sharing information that you consider to be educational.  However I caution you not to be dismissive or imply that your audience is not educated enough to make these decisions on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that one of the comments above includes some possible modifications for making this recipe with pork instead. However I think it would be really great to (in the future) post the original recipe with optional modifications already included for those of us who do not want to eat tortured baby animals (a.k.a. veal). Sorry to be the Debbie-downer in the room (or on the website) but I find it irresponsible to encourage others to seek out veal, when we know that the veal industry encourages some of the worst cases of animal cruelty, which has been thoroughly documented and proved to be true.  While some may be aware of this, others may not and will unknowingly buy veal because of your recipe. You may not see the problem of this, but I do encourage you to learn about the ingredients you&#039;re using before suggesting others use them as well.

Let&#039;s face it: there are alternatives to eating veal out there. I think we should use them. As a fellow foodie and blogger, I just think that we should be responsible in how we affect others&#039; diets &amp; food choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that one of the comments above includes some possible modifications for making this recipe with pork instead. However I think it would be really great to (in the future) post the original recipe with optional modifications already included for those of us who do not want to eat tortured baby animals (a.k.a. veal). Sorry to be the Debbie-downer in the room (or on the website) but I find it irresponsible to encourage others to seek out veal, when we know that the veal industry encourages some of the worst cases of animal cruelty, which has been thoroughly documented and proved to be true.  While some may be aware of this, others may not and will unknowingly buy veal because of your recipe. You may not see the problem of this, but I do encourage you to learn about the ingredients you&#8217;re using before suggesting others use them as well.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it: there are alternatives to eating veal out there. I think we should use them. As a fellow foodie and blogger, I just think that we should be responsible in how we affect others&#8217; diets &amp; food choices.</p>
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		<title>By: dining room set</title>
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		<dc:creator>dining room set</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks easy! I got to try and perfect this so that it would be present on the dining table come Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks easy! I got to try and perfect this so that it would be present on the dining table come Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trasherati - a cookbook would be the gift that keeps on giving.  Literally.  As in, I would be giving it to everyone i know for their birthday....and Christmas.......and Easter..... and possibly still trying to get rid of the over stock ;)

Beth - this would be DELIGHTFUL with pork tenderloin!!!!  I would use 2 tenderloins (mostly because I&#039;m greedy) or 1 pork loin and adjust the time.  For pork tenderloin, when I roast it in the oven I cook it at about 400 for 20 minutes.  With the outside sear, even though the temperature is lower it still likely wouldn&#039;t need more than 15 minutes to cook through.  Let me know if you try!!!

Gina - aw, thanks!  It seems that lately I need to have a lot of those,,,,,,

Jacquie - so here&#039;s the thing about Middle Eastern or other exotic tasting spice mixes:  they&#039;re really, REALLY hard to mess up.  If you have a rough idea of what goes in there you can play away to your heart&#039;s content.  The other consideration is dilution.  If you&#039;re making a spice blend with 3 ingredients, you want to watch the ratios really closely.  Oh, or even if there are multiple ingredients but one or two are really strongly flavored.  But when you&#039;re mixing up 6-10 spices and they&#039;re all pungent and delicious?  You can honestly just wing it sometimes and see where you land. The first try may not be perfect, but I bet it will still be tasty....... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trasherati &#8211; a cookbook would be the gift that keeps on giving.  Literally.  As in, I would be giving it to everyone i know for their birthday&#8230;.and Christmas&#8230;&#8230;.and Easter&#8230;.. and possibly still trying to get rid of the over stock <img src='http://www.choosy-beggars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Beth &#8211; this would be DELIGHTFUL with pork tenderloin!!!!  I would use 2 tenderloins (mostly because I&#8217;m greedy) or 1 pork loin and adjust the time.  For pork tenderloin, when I roast it in the oven I cook it at about 400 for 20 minutes.  With the outside sear, even though the temperature is lower it still likely wouldn&#8217;t need more than 15 minutes to cook through.  Let me know if you try!!!</p>
<p>Gina &#8211; aw, thanks!  It seems that lately I need to have a lot of those,,,,,,</p>
<p>Jacquie &#8211; so here&#8217;s the thing about Middle Eastern or other exotic tasting spice mixes:  they&#8217;re really, REALLY hard to mess up.  If you have a rough idea of what goes in there you can play away to your heart&#8217;s content.  The other consideration is dilution.  If you&#8217;re making a spice blend with 3 ingredients, you want to watch the ratios really closely.  Oh, or even if there are multiple ingredients but one or two are really strongly flavored.  But when you&#8217;re mixing up 6-10 spices and they&#8217;re all pungent and delicious?  You can honestly just wing it sometimes and see where you land. The first try may not be perfect, but I bet it will still be tasty&#8230;&#8230;. <img src='http://www.choosy-beggars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacquie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacquie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah, you and your awesome spice mixtures. Do you just throw this together? I&#039;m very impressed. (I buy spices in bulk when I&#039;m down south and tend to forget about them until a 1/2 pound bag of tumeric or star anise falls on my head.) How do you know what goes well together and/or in what proportion? I&#039;m always afear-d of creating something inedible so I stay with my tried-and-true (dull) combos.

This is totally going to be used on some deer. I&#039;m always looking for new and interesting ways to cook game. 

Oh, and isn&#039;t kale awesome? I love braised kale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah, you and your awesome spice mixtures. Do you just throw this together? I&#8217;m very impressed. (I buy spices in bulk when I&#8217;m down south and tend to forget about them until a 1/2 pound bag of tumeric or star anise falls on my head.) How do you know what goes well together and/or in what proportion? I&#8217;m always afear-d of creating something inedible so I stay with my tried-and-true (dull) combos.</p>
<p>This is totally going to be used on some deer. I&#8217;m always looking for new and interesting ways to cook game. </p>
<p>Oh, and isn&#8217;t kale awesome? I love braised kale.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks easy and delicious! Definitely going to be a new addition to my recipes that say thank you for putting up with me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks easy and delicious! Definitely going to be a new addition to my recipes that say thank you for putting up with me!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tina- how do you think this would work with pork? I have a pork tenderloin in my freezer and I&#039;d love to give it this treatment but I&#039;m not sure if the flavors would mesh? (I&#039;m kind of a cooking neophite, I&#039;m trying to expand from my fall back basics.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina- how do you think this would work with pork? I have a pork tenderloin in my freezer and I&#8217;d love to give it this treatment but I&#8217;m not sure if the flavors would mesh? (I&#8217;m kind of a cooking neophite, I&#8217;m trying to expand from my fall back basics.)</p>
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		<title>By: Trasherati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trasherati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tina, I wish you&#039;d just write a cookbook already - my list of bookmarked pages is getting pretty lengthy...
That is totally a compliment and a &quot;thank you&quot; phrased as a nag, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina, I wish you&#8217;d just write a cookbook already &#8211; my list of bookmarked pages is getting pretty lengthy&#8230;<br />
That is totally a compliment and a &#8220;thank you&#8221; phrased as a nag, btw.</p>
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